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Level up advise

Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 1:29 pm
by Analog
Hey Guys,

Any advise on what I should be focused on for the next 50 - 75 points?? Something tells me vamp or team vamp but I'm also wondering if I should be thinking about ghost or something.

It takes so long to level up, I don't want to waste any

TIA

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Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 1:54 pm
by Cadmium
For sure Ghost OR Resurrect. Max it though.
You might need a few extra points, either take it off regen, health bonus, cautiousness, or shields up.
IF you really need a few more points for more vamp as well you can probably take off a few levels of Damage bonus/ damage reduction
as well.

Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 1:18 pm
by Amy Infless
well, looks like you are in the regular levelsystem, and you
"only" need 55k for next level... i remember when i reached that levels, it
can be frustrating... imagine when you would need 708k to next
level...sigh...


if you really dont want "waste" anything, i would refund all, set the
primary abilities all like in the first pic, except ammo bonus and adren.

if you have the bad luck rarely getting infinity-pu in the first waves, and
hate beeing out of ammo fast, set "ammo-bonus" to 100 (maybe +/- 20)

if you play a lot with artifacts, (lightningrod, doubles, tripples, ice, fire,)
then remember, the more adren you have, the longer it can stay,
depending on the other secondary adren-ability (adren-surge, if im right)

if you dont have cad´s luck getting one of these things in every map and
beeing able to use it for 19 waves, then set it back to 105 (you need 5+
points there when you want use denial (ehrm..or was it awareness?? sry
didnt refund for a long time, forgot about this one))

"regeneration" is allways ok, the higher the better, esp. when you can
hide, but no monster or player you can vamp off. or maybe just used
adren and cant use adren-health-combo.


for medic-ability you need 10 adren to be able to medic a wep, if you join
late, but cant kill anything to get adren or no adrenspawns in the
near, "adren-drip" can help (with first level it gives you 1 adren in 5
seconds..)


i would reduce "resupply" to level 1 (depending on your ammo-bonus and
the bad "no-inf-in-first-waves-luck")


i didnt use "powerjump" (well never tried it also), maybe some "extra
jumps" can do the same for you, its not so expensive...


"iron legs" IS WASTE!!! normally most INVASION is modified so you can
fall from the highest builidings without getting any damage, except there is
an instantkill deathtrap on the ground, but iron legs doesnt help against
that.


"retaliation" IS WASTE !!! example: you have MAXED your "retaliation"-
ability. now imagine that little bug or that fly, is jumping at you "1017
times" in 10minutes trying to kill you. after that it suddenly dies. YOU GET
1 EXP FOR THAT! is it really worth to buy??? (its a different thing to use
the retaliation-pu, this takes much more effect!!!)
note*: countershove is also waste, has the same effect!


"quickfoot" i think only helps maxed (5) a bit, anyways i would buy it later
when you dont know what to buy when you have "all" ;-)



"shields-up" is ok as long you use adren-health-combo, as long you can
duck/(crouch)/hide and have 1 or more shieldregeneration-pus loaded, or
a map with supershield-spawns. dunno if it really helps, i have bought
level 2 with my last level-up (have 200 shield now).. but when i think
about beeing killed with one shot even when im fully equipped it makes
me thinking beeing waste... (sure, its a different thing beeing 200- or 300-
anything...) [my problem is i allways forgot i have this ability and dont
duck to reload my shields or dont collect supershields... (rock) ]


"cautioness" level 1 or 2 is ok when you damage or kill yourself a lot :-)


does "smart healing" work? allways when i try to look at it it looks like
running around with maxed "regeneration" and a bit vamp/teamvamp
makes it impossible to see, if you really get "more" than the 25-health-
points when you collect one..

"airmaster".. in my opinion its waste, there are other more important
things

if you want get "much more" exps for healing players, you need more
than that level 1 medic exp.! with level 5 medic exp and level3 (maxed)
field medic it starts to begin interesting...but thats depending on how you
like to play... if you have no luck getting good weps or often joining late, a
medic mini and a hidingspot with some players can help you givin more
exp than you now can imagine..[and i mean EXPS, not F1-score!]
...otherwise its just a little bonus..
or when you have no good weps and/or infinity at map-starts, a mediced
wep like mp5, bio, minigun or flak can help you the first waves getting
some stuff, and the nice nearby-effect is, you allways hit players in that
time and for that you most time got some exps too...


you dont have ghost or resurect yet????????? wow... thats something what
can really help you getting exps to level up or not! i think you know how
much exps you can get in wave15-16, killing all the fat titans and queens,
or wave 17/19, all the soldiers....just imaging you have a good and easy
to kill-wep, but you have the "luck" beeing barbecued by a firetitan or a
titan crushing you at the beginning of these waves... all these exps "for
you" are gone just because of an "accident", which often happens only 1
or 2 times in a map, but allways at the wrong time!

so buy it minimum level 2 !!!!! (level 1 = you respawn after ghost/resurect
with only 1 healthpoint...not much when it happens in later waves...
level 2 = 100 healthpoints, can be enough to survive long enough to go in
hidingspot or heal yourself up to your regular health.

---> ghost:
advantage: you can "be killed" one time, or "suicide", and you get your
wrenches back
disadvantage: if you ghost, and "respawn" after ghosting, you dont have 3
seconds "invulnerable" like the resurect-ability, thats main-reason for the
ghost-weaponlossbug (you ghost, respawn, beeing killed by wand for
example, weapon is lost! while ghosting you "loose" your weps (because
you are "dead") when you spawn after ghosting the server gives back all
your weps and abilites within .... depending if its laggy...1-2 seconds?!?
most lost their weps because they got killed again (within these 1-2
seconds delay) most time by 1-shot-kills like lasers, wands, rocks or
overpowered turbolasers BEFORE they got their weps back) !!!

(*note, if you ghost, you are "dead", means, dead players dont "need"
weapons, so if you respawn after ghosting, you have no weapon(s) for a
short time (1-2secs.), and with that not all its helpfull "abilities", like the
shields (if you had them, instas, rock or prot5 etc.), which normally keeps
you save...thats why even the strongest best equipped players die easy
with one shot)


---> resurect:
advantage: you can "be killed" one time, after you respawn you are 3
seconds invulnerable and with the "lag-luck" you get wrenches back.
disadvantage: suicide will be instant-kill (except you have ghost-pu), no
respawn after that like when you have ghost-abilty; you have to wait till next wave..
not really known for weaponloss. sometimes you miss the fast resurect,
and suddenly die a second time cause of beeing not enough carefull...



i guess you have gold, its not in the pictures :-)
im not sure if blue wrench is waste or not, if you have bad luck with
getting negative weps all the time its up to you, i bought it when i was ...
higher 300... but it rarely helps, slomo -3/-5 is often in my wep-inventory
also like damaged -3 -wops, so one is not enough... its up to you...


well, all these just reflect my opinion and experience, but remember, you
can refund all the time, whenever you want, when needed 5 times in a
wave... just dont hit reset... you can play yourself with some different
settings, just to try them out...like retaliation, iron legs or iron shows...
just play 2-3 maps only for trying some settings, and you will see many is
really waste, or maybe these or that is better for you...

many of the things you dont have, and about which i did not wrote here, is
waste or just if you have nothing else to buy when beeing "a bit" higher ;-)


ats

Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 1:40 pm
by ZombieSlayer
Regen level 1
Resupply level 1
Quick foot 0
Iron legs 0
Power jump 0

Don't worry about ghost or ress too much yet, I didn't get ress until I was 260 something :D Max vamp then save up for ress. Ghost sucks, too many chances to get boned by a rock wand or laser rifle :D

Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 1:55 pm
by Analog
Thanks Guys, that is exactly the type of info I was looking for, especially the stuff Amy outlined as a waste of time.

Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 9:12 pm
by Archangel
Analog wrote:Thanks Guys, that is exactly the type of info I was looking for, especially the stuff Amy outlined as a waste of time.
Dude.....Amy does know her stuff.........she's a long time player with vast knowledge of this server.........She actually wrote some good stuff there. Don't be dissin her now.

Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 10:23 pm
by ZombieSlayer
Arch learn to read :D He's not dissin Amy ;)

Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 3:22 am
by Amy Infless
ty, but i dont think its meant in a negative way :-)

Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 3:25 am
by Analog
Archangel wrote: Dude.....Amy does know her stuff.........she's a long time player with vast knowledge of this server.........She actually wrote some good stuff there. Don't be dissin her now.
No diss at all - I was serious, I'm glad I know those things that are a waste of time so I won't even bother with them.

Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 3:28 am
by Amy Infless
anyways it can be we all have to relearn that when next patch 180 is ready... maybe something what is a waste NOW can be important then,,, but thats another story

ats