Border's Justice to be: Served or Damned [Resolved]

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Should Border be banned?

Yes, ban him from the forum for a set period of time
1
4%
Yes, ban him from the forum forever
20
77%
No
3
12%
Neutral
2
8%
 
Total votes: 26

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Post by SirBeast » Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:43 pm

ZombieSlayer wrote:First off back up and re-read my post. I was laughing at the fact that you got all pissy about beastay being banned when in fact nobody said he was going to be banned.
Yes, somebody did - but it was just me commenting about my own perceived breaking of the rules with this post. I wholly support ZS here in that *I* (see also: smartass) was the only one who mentioned it, not anyone else, much less no admin.
ZombieSlayer wrote:Secondly if you don't frackin report it nothing can be done about it.
I won't argue that point in the slightest. In hindsight I realize I should have contacted BOTH server admins initially. 20-20 and all that (see below)
ZombieSlayer wrote:Thirdly YES send any and all complaints to ALL...errrr both of the forum admins. We aren't all knowing and we can't be on 24/7. Gee I'd think that common sense would've alerted you to that.

For the record nobody has had a 3rd strike yet. Get your facts straight.
Thanks for clarifying that last bit.
ZombieSlayer wrote:ROFL @ your questioning of my maturity :roll:
Agreed. ZS is one of the most mature people around, and I won't question that - neither should any1 else. If any1 perceived my comments as attacks on ZS's maturity, then I mis-worded my comment as it was never my intention to convey this opinion of ZS.
ZombieSlayer wrote:For the last time, unless you specifically tell someone to leave you alone or you'd consider it harassment...there's nothing we can do. This isn't frackin Russia where the gestapo takes people away for no damn reason.
Agreed entirely. However, my beef is that is EXACTLY what I did, as detailed by my earlier post, and although he continued to PM me on multiple occasions, and although I reported those to PB when he did, nothing was done. I only reported to ZS the most recent occurrence, as it was by then obvious PB was not going to take any action other than telling me to ignore him, rather than punish him for these repeat offenses as he did to other, more reputable players (Sloppy) for a much lesser infraction.
ZombieSlayer wrote:Oh and finally if you (1800) or anyone else has "proof to back that the rules on this forum and server are not enforced like they should be" then MAN UP and send it via pm so it can be investigated.

Without recent proof it's all whine whine bitch bitch somebody call me a whaaaambulance.
Agreed. However, I would be willing to wager that I am not the first nor the last member of this forum to PM one or the other admin about Border's repeated harassment. If you have such proof ZS hasn't seen yet, he needs to see it, so please send it along to him if you haven't done so already. It's apparent to me that sending such information to PB will get you nowhere.

11 votes all the same way is a pretty stunning response in less than 24 hours - honestly, how often is it that so many different players agree completely on the same issue - being a pretty diverse group our opinions usually diverge slightly too, which is to be expected and appreciated - if we were all totally the same life would be pretty boring. I am pretty sure we can all guess where the one "no" vote probably came from.
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Post by 1800 » Thu Jan 03, 2008 2:08 pm

zombie btw...im not trying to insult you personally, but i highly dis-agree with the attitudes of most of the admins for MM. there are several that have made their presence known only to be jackasses. you may not be in that category, but IMO one apple spoils the bunch. i have made threads about this in the past (admins not caring or admin abuse or whatever) and you were the only one to respond to it, so i thank you for that. you may be the only who cares about enforcing the rules, but its hard to believe that when so many of the admins here dont give a shit to do it right.
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Post by +SaiN+ » Thu Jan 03, 2008 2:15 pm

1800 wrote:zombie btw...im not trying to insult you personally, but i highly dis-agree with the attitudes of most of the admins for MM. there are several that have made their presence known only to be jackasses. you may not be in that category, but IMO one apple spoils the bunch. i have made threads about this in the past (admins not caring or admin abuse or whatever) and you were the only one to respond to it, so i thank you for that. you may be the only who cares about enforcing the rules, but its hard to believe that when so many of the admins here dont give a shit to do it right.

True.. This is the first server I've ever been to where an admin addresses the person in question they're trying to discipline / reprimand in an insulting manner either in-game or in-forum.

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Post by TheSynGame » Thu Jan 03, 2008 2:25 pm

+SaiN+ wrote:There's a small, but extremely loud group of people that frequent the game that do all sorts of harassment without -ANY- fear of repercussion.

I really think its time for admins to either start busting some serious balls, or if the admin staff is too small, hire more help. I really despise people who like to grief because they know they won't get caught, or just get a tiny slap on the wrist.
Cry me a river... It's fun that people do that. If you feel you are being insulted then he's these two options.

a) Bring it up to that person.
b) mute him.

I don't see what the problem is...You should only bring up something serious to an admin, not little bs.

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Post by KnaveSkye » Thu Jan 03, 2008 2:27 pm

I think border needs a little of the ol AXE lovin :axe: :axe: :axe:


hmmm....
border_2 wrote:Y a i know its a sensitive topic and as far as scoring loads i was always told that lvl is the key but when a lvl 200 can out score 2 250+ vets and i mean triple there score with same weapon on tiny map well.Im sure ill here its the pus combo or its skill but im not hearing that .Please people just spec a few games be4 this new Name same game play gets too high lvl to figure it out!After watching the last game seeing him triple all scores by wave 3 im close to getting a Program of my own.Well i hope you guys enjoy being made fools of but hell if the server cant catch these Programs and people are allowed to use then hell lets all do it!The saying if it to good to be true it prob isnt comes to mind here guys and i hope your smart enough to figure it out.Hel !
Now border is talking about downloading bots and encouraging us all to do the same :rock:
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Post by TheSynGame » Thu Jan 03, 2008 3:16 pm

He was accusing drae of botting earlier today. It was getting annoying but thats a noob for you. Who cares what he was doing. I am a lvl. 97 under «K$D»TheSynGame and I outscored everyone but hicky today. Shit means nothing unless you have skill to back up those levels.
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Post by SirBeast » Thu Jan 03, 2008 3:59 pm

KnaveSkye wrote:I think border needs a little of the ol AXE lovin :axe: :axe: :axe:


hmmm....
border_2 wrote:Y a i know its a sensitive topic and as far as scoring loads i was always told that lvl is the key but when a lvl 200 can out score 2 250+ vets and i mean triple there score with same weapon on tiny map well.Im sure ill here its the pus combo or its skill but im not hearing that .Please people just spec a few games be4 this new Name same game play gets too high lvl to figure it out!After watching the last game seeing him triple all scores by wave 3 im close to getting a Program of my own.Well i hope you guys enjoy being made fools of but hell if the server cant catch these Programs and people are allowed to use then hell lets all do it!The saying if it to good to be true it prob isnt comes to mind here guys and i hope your smart enough to figure it out.Hel !
Now border is talking about downloading bots and encouraging us all to do the same :rock:
TheSynGame wrote:He was accusing drae of botting earlier today. It was getting annoying but thats a noob for you. Who cares what he was doing. I am a lvl. 97 under «K$D»TheSynGame and I outscored everyone but hicky today. Shit means nothing unless you have skill to back up those levels.
Wow, he's already on the hot seat here, and he's encouraging players to cheat. And he's gone back to harassing Drae in the forums here again too. Sure, he didn't mention Drae by name, but with Border's track record, we all know who he's talking about.

I myself was happy to see Drae return - I'd always rather play with a veteran than a n00b. Sure, he's ALWAYS going to score higher than me - I expect that, and am shocked/worried when that DOESN'T happen. But at least he's willing to toss me a WoP/PU if he has one I want instead of asking "How to I toss powerups?" or "How do I toss weapons?"! Honestly, I rarely care about my actual score becuase I am often running around providing PUs/WoPs to those who need them instead of worrying ONLY about my/others score.

Apparently the rules of this server and forum mean nothing to Border. No surprise, really, seeing the punishment (or lack thereof) he's received in the past.
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Post by KnaveSkye » Thu Jan 03, 2008 6:10 pm

he also plays CB good...thats good enough for me =P
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Post by TheMadDJ » Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:45 pm

Drae's back? Cool. Just in time for my return to uni (and the server too) then.

And if Border's starting that shit again and doesn't get kicked out of here, then I'll lose faith with the Admin team. Simple as.
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Post by BaronVonRotterdam » Sun Jan 06, 2008 9:17 am

Well Beast,

First of all sorry for my lack of help in this situation. You would not believe the emails I have gotten from you and from border on this situation. The reasons things were just taken care of immediately in an instant like you clearly wanted was the difficulty of conflicting stories and the *promises* to behave. So I threw in some advice that was clearly not followed which I believe was since you both obviously dont like each other, dont read the pm's that are sent to you from the other conflicting party or even better, stop sending them altogether.

oh, and I edited the original post with the "Neutral" vote.
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