a really good idea would be

[Tzakol]

From what I have observed the only people upset about him are sore losers that haven't adapted their play styles to the newest changes.

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Interesting you would say it is someone who is a sore loser, not at all... I have sat on this since the person came into the server, bottom line is.. it's a bot.. I've been playing this game since you where about 4 (according to your profile)not the first time I've seen it ... it's been a long time since I've spoke up about something like this, it most likely will be the last....

the mod in its current state is unplayable, I have complained more than once about the screen flash, it is a hell of a lot more than what UT had, and is not toneable ... you have added in effects to the texturing and meshes in a way that they cannot be at the least toned down....

shame

[Mobster]

I have replied back with valid points or counter arguments multiple times now. You either outright ignore them and/or give your advice based on your earlier gaming, administration, and now age experience. While you're obligated to your opinion I've stated how our process is here.

I am a younger administrator here however I feel I am qualified for this role. So does Joey and Baron Von Rotterdam or they wouldn't have given me the role, and someone else - might be replying to this thread. I mentioned earlier in this thread our track record for dealing with foul play in our Battlefield 2 days. I've spent years being apart of this community patrolling both of the servers from cheaters or the regular rule breaker, and abiding by our limited Server Rules, Administrator Code of Conduct, and our internal guidelines for filing incidents, kicks, bans, etc. (I wish the same could be said about some of the other administrators in this community.) The rules, code, and internal guidelines implemented to make this community a fun, welcoming place for all to play at. Joey started this community because he was sick of playing at servers that trampled those that joined it, and taking the fun out of the game. Yes, we have faced many hurdles and challenges, and have done our best to learn from them and will continue to do so. From all of that we were successful in owning the best Infantry Only Conquest Server in Battlefield 2, and now have the best Invasion Server in Unreal Tournament 2004. With the potential of branching out to other games in the future.

So I am going to refer to our Server Rules page. Below I underlined the pertaining information to this conflict.

Gaming Madness
UT2004 Monster Madness Invasion Server Rules

[*]PUNISHMENTS & CONFLICT RESOLUTION

1. Punishments: Punishments are at the discretion of the server administrators or the Gaming Madness administrators and can result in a verbal / text warning, kick from the server, temp ban or permanent server ban depending on the severity of the issue.
2. Resolving Issues: DO NOT take matters into your own hands. Doing so could result in both parties being banned from the server. If you have an issue with another player, notify an administrator either in game, PM them on the forums, or make a post on the forums about the issue, and administrators will resolve it for you.
3. Server Drama: DO NOT hash out your drama on the server!!! We have a forum for a reason! Use the forum as your arena to deal with the issue.
4. Evidence: ALWAYS provide evidence of negative actions by other players that you are reporting. Administrators WILL NOT "take your word for it". If you have no proof, then it didn't happen. Proof can be provided by including screenshots or fraps video of the incident in question.
5. Not Sure About Something?: If you are ever in doubt about the rules above or anything else having to do with the server then speak to an administrator and they will help you as best they can.

Therefore as the acting administrator on this case, at this time no administrative action will go into effect. For the following:
1. Resentment towards this particular player from the past has influenced a group of those that do not want this player back, and to use any means to force this player out again.
2. No particular and/or proper form of evidence of the accused player was submitted to date.
3. This particular player once had a bad history in the community, however he has shown to have taken a complete turn around in his attitude, and actions to date.
4. The administration for months now has decided there are no grounds for action on this particular player to date.


My last thoughts on this for now. This drama has plagued the server for months now, I would like to remind all those reading this that this community is open to all. This isn't a private club, and want to make it clear your donations to support the upkeep of the server do not give you a voice to administer this server. Any attempts, more specifically in-game on any side of the conflict to continue this drama in any way, harass, or act without discretion from Joey, Baron Von Rotterdam, or even myself could be met with administrative action. It's shameful to treat all players innocent until proven guilty?
***With all of that taken into accord we will still check any infractions properly submitted, and proper form of evidence from any side on this conflict. Anything otherwise will be void.***
If you have an issue with game play we will do our best this summer to make the necessary changes. If there are various things unfix-able we will strongly consider a classic server.

P.S. If you look at this and say tl;dr you're part of the drama in this community.

[Tzakol]

long post passed on.


you're not listening, and I'm done talking to you

T

PS. A good admin doesn't throw away good info. they investigate it. since you're tunnel vision is to ignore the information being provided... your administration of this server is suspect to catering to those that have paid, and yes I am entitled to my view on this. I have seen this person come in before as tmoney and as the current incarnation, unchanged... bot wielding, polite to a degree but unwilling to share a single pup, lest they are asked... You also seem to ignore my complaint about screen flash. and the games content in general... I realize your not going to bother trying to change something that causes some people a serious amount of discomfort... nothing much I can do about that.. and no I am exclusionary unless there is reason to be. cheating in my books has never been ok, and I now see you as a facilitator of this persons disdain with this server.

Had you bothered to try and offer an alternate server that is based on the old, or the old one itself. I wouldn't have been this upset about this. You have the hardware now, use it.....

total bull

[ZombieSlayer]

Paint will work on correcting that stupid nyan rifle and some of the other annoyances over the summer. Mobster can't do any of that so there's no point in ripping into him about not doing anything about it.

In regards to T-Money, most everyone that's been around for awhile knows I don't like him, never have, never will. I went out of my way to find proof that we can use according to our guidelines that he uses a bot. I could not acquire such proof. Our burden of proof is a bit harder to achieve than most servers, because we didn't want to become too heavy handed. Sure, sometimes it comes off as being too lenient, but we'd rather be a little more lenient than strict.

It's very hard to prove the use of a bot just by showing statistics. Because as Mobster pointed out, other well known players that aren't suspected of botting have better spm's and server ranking.

So I just wait patiently in the shadows for him to censored up again in one of his other usual ways and then I will take action.

[Tzakol]

Zombieslayer, thanks for the pragmatic view... much appreciated. If Mobster would just have approached the situation as you have.... without being confrontational about it, I would of let it lie. Yes, I am getting old, fu****ng cranky too.... not having a reliable isp and reinstalling windows 3 times in 2 weeks would be at the least a little aggravating, but it shouldn't reflect within me with respect to my replies... but I digress, it has. I do apologize, but I do see it, I've found at least 30 people boting on servers over the past 20, if not more... when you get use to seeing it, you know it ... it's sometimes hard to explain to someone who hasn't seen it over the course of a games lifetime, but I have. Proof.. I'm not going to spec someone to get it, done enough of it .... figure it's someone else's turn to watch.

You will most likely have noticed I haven't been on much recently.... 2 seizures in 2 games, not fun.... I like the game, I like the mod... having to look for a new game to play, and most of them are worst for screen flash than this one is...... ut wasn't that bad, nor war the previous incarnation of the mod, 179... you may have also notices that some of the older players are not playing, and some of those that are playing are not really liking the way it's playing either.... We'll see of the course of the summer... maybe it gets better.... maybe I quit the game.... time will tell.

T