a really good idea would be

[Tzakol]

getting rid of the cheats... we worked long and hard to get where we are, to have someone come in and in half the time double our scores... flies in the face of the integrity of the gamers and the servers reputation

[Mobster]

I must cheat then too, and all the others who had put together this patch then. As stated plenty of times already. You are rewarded for being an active player with this patch. Meaning you can't stand still or camp in the safe spot of the map and expect to be a top performer in the game anymore.

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=4380

Either embrace the new style of game play, or hold off until a POSSIBLE classic server comes up in the server perhaps.

[Tzakol]

I must cheat then too, and all the others who had put together this patch then. As stated plenty of times already. You are rewarded for being an active player with this patch. Meaning you can't stand still or camp in the safe spot of the map and expect to be a top performer in the game anymore.

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=4380

Either embrace the new style of game play, or hold off until a POSSIBLE classic server comes up in the server perhaps.

I am not standing still.... I am however stating the obvious aimbots on the server... so sad you have to attach someone who is pointing out something you are obviously ignoring

[Mobster]

Where is your "physical" evidence of players that are using aimbots?

Not sure about other servers but here at Monster Madness, we DO NOT ban people for rule infractions before reviewing video or screenshot evidence (specifically hack or cheating infractions). And in most cases that includes an internal discussion amongst the administration. I feel this Gaming Community has a great track record for eliminating foul play on our servers. For instance our BF2 days, nearly 200 bans - all of them have either video or 1st/3rd person view screenshots to accompany our files on cheaters. 99.9% of those bans were cheating related. Not to mention a few of them were global bans that we would track down and submit to PBBANS, and other similar systems.

This system ensures a fair "trial" to all players. Which reduces the chances of good and honest players being thrown out of the server. We do not take ones word for it, or a vast majority of the players seem to agree here. This community is open to all, and any playing level. It's not a private club where we play with only the people we want around.

In case this is another Annihilator "hackusation", Anni uses some unorthodox strategies in his play style. Which includes a speed stack, which does strange things from a third person view. Making it appear a player is snapping to targets which is the most common sight on aimbots. These unorthodox strategies are not cheats or hacks, therefore no bans have been placed. Also want to mention Anni is a very good player, that knows how to play the game. And again is rewarded with higher scores due to an active role in the match and a "RunNGun" play style.

If you provide us with some evidence, we will take the time to review it internally as always.

[Tzakol]

I'm not the only one who has seen this.. and I've been around since scanline was first invented, variations on it have always made their way through server side detection till it was known, recoded by the one who was coding the antibot/cheat ... most people who where doing this have long since left this community leaving it wide open to those who feel they need to cheat to get ahead. I don't condone it.. never have...
Statistics on game play don't lie, and this person is running 224points per hour, and is around lvl 77 with 360 hours played.. right in the middle of all the other cheats that you probably have removed in the past.
I don't usually bother speaking up, but when it is so blatantly obvious, as well as Cobrea seeing the same thing I'm seeing... well.. you can ignore it if you want, I am not.

T

[Mobster]

We're aware you aren't the only one. Yet still none have come forward with any evidence. As far as an administration side we have no grounds for a ban. So yes technically we are ignoring the accusations as that's all they are without substantial proof.

[Tzakol]

statistics don't lie... said it before ...

http://www.gametracker.com/player/Annih ... .157:7777/
not hard to figure out something is seriously wrong with the next sample set.
http://www.gametracker.com/server_info/ ... =50#search

just sayin... not wasting my time doing something you! should be doing and not throwing it back into my lap.

Cheers

T

[Mobster]

That doesn't prove foul play. The points that any player can accrue over a match are very extensive. Ive spent many hours spectating Annihilator. He is constantly disabling nukes, and redeemers which give out a bucket of points. He also knows what monsters are a higher threat priority, and which ones give out a stupid amount of points. The point's values for various things in the server are inconsistent.

If only Bananaface still played here, he knows how to be a score whore and does it better than Annihilator. So where was everyone calling for his ban?

I swear this T-Money/Annihilator conflict is solely based on resentment from the past, and being a score whore. From what I can tell Annihilator's attitude took a complete 180 turn from what it was in the past. The reason why "I throw it in your lap" is honestly maybe the administration could have been over looking something. But your proof was a link to Game Tracker, and as stated above doesn't reflect signs of foul play nor what we require for evidence.

[Tzakol]

I've been watching this person play in fpview, if there is no bot in play, which is possible.. the guy is better than fatal1ty and a lot of others that have played professionally. ... This isn't the first bot I've found since the inception of ut ---- the ai/human is spectrumed, meaning any input from the user is to a degree emulated by the bot using heuristics in algorithms designed to be modified over time to seem more human. If you haven't seen them online, you wouldn't know if they where real people or bots. The only true way to see through them now is to take a baseline of known human players and compare the statistical outcome over time... this is the reason I have brought up the stats thing.... here are 2 links that explain what I am talking about

http://www.pcgamer.com/unreal-tournamen ... ring-test/

the next one shows how the player is using a bot, but it seems like a human player at the controls

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/ ... 092612.php#

[Mobster]

If you compare Anni's score per minute to any of Cadmium's various names or Airrrrman they are much higher than Anni's. And that's only two of the popular names on the list. Anni doesn't even show up until page 18 on the SPM list. (At the moment.)

Some other analysis, Anni would talk about Cad, and Drae wishing he could play with them still. That leads me to believe he would like to test his skills against them. If you ask me a hacker wouldn't be interested in that. Commonly cheaters will trash talk, and instigate the game as much as they can to ensure everyone is having a bad time. I know Anni left this at the gate when we let him back in officially. From what I have observed the only people upset about him are sore losers that haven't adapted their play styles to the newest changes.

And as far as the video it is an interesting find, but at some points it does still seems inorganic. From the time I put in observing him I personally haven't seen any thing out of the ordinary.